NeonDM

stop slacking bob
also stop being a bitch bob
also stop trying to hijack OUR collab bob
also stop trying to ruin the pack bob
gg

I got all your updates already bob don't worry, I will add in the 20 and then fix or delete 08

orange cool too

hey whats up sunday squad here we got the top color scientists here

maps:
06 - one more change i want to make on the bottom, thats it
07 - poor spawn. looks like the entire rest of the map is ok though
08 - work
10 - acs work please
11 - argentum talk when not busy with finals, i might have a change for the better again.
17 - i fix 2 easy things and layout looks final besides that
18 - maybe one day you guys will be ready for manly dm... I have 2 new ideas to scrap and make a replacement map now instead.
19 - uncertain, i might want to scrap and make a new map. i cant think of any easy fix, map is not compartmentalized enough. seems like this might be the wrong pack for this type of map. already have replacement ideas...
20 - ts3 for items. layout looks final at least.
grymap - work
bob11 - get ready for some crazy 3d floor progressive layouts good luck me
22 - we did find things to fix but jason was present, so hope he remembers and fixes them.

good luck with your 'episodic' approach, as long as its not my fault im good. split my maps however u see fit. ill do a 12th map as a super collab again, no more than that


palette:
i see what is going on. i know there is a demand for colors doom was never meant to handle.

current approach is going to be shit if you want to shove more new colors in. we already see how spring green is a tip toe travesty.
i mean look at this:

houston we have a problem dude

that range you changed is actually a combination with the one below (top is light part, bottom is dark). Yep, they put 32 bloody red pinks as a huge ass range. Like a billion sprites and textures use those colors so good luck patching 1000 graphics. It will literally be impossible to patch most of the flesh textures + other whatever without restoring part of the range you eliminated. I'm also going to use those colors for detail.

I have the solution we've all been waiting for hopefully: (qzdoom for zan plz = less palette bullcrap to dw)
doom2png-temp.wad
What we do is convert EVERY graphic in doom2.wad to paletted png. This will make each graphic force itself on a custom palette loaded (neon's) during rendering instead of the doom palette. Effect as we've seen: no longer will doom graphics force their colors to index bmp style but by closest match. We can load this as the first wad in the server before everything, and everything will work including mspd and udmx and idc. I will optimize that wad later to reduce filesize. rust also probably needs to update eon weapons to do the same thing (doom format graphics tsk tsk)

EFFECTS & BENEFITS:
-load that wad before neon. shoot a rocket. notice how the center of the rocket explosion is now correct while all the new colors (spring green) are still maintained. This should be enough to convince you
-Gives us the total power to completely redesign the doom palette and do anything we want. this will need careful attention and not some quick dirty edits like before. we need to balance between number of shades for each color and variety of colors, to fit within 256. Can keep the doom palette partially intact for ease (doom needs all that red,brown,pinky red, blue btw, touching those is pmuch off limits (like u did with lavender))
- Can fill in the entire hue circle with violet and chartreuse now (+ real rose?). each color can get darks and lights.

CONS?:
-have to load 1 more wad i guess idk. actually we should be able to throw it into neon itself (untested).
-doom2.wad is still required to run anything so should be safe there
-there are doom format graphics/textures lurking around both dbab and aeondm. these will get destroyed by any radically different palettes. would need to make the supercompilation or whatever and convert all to png to fix this.

if this works out, then this has never been done before (ancient aliens did something very similar although not pngs) and the only step between this and more is qzdoom itself. I will create minimal example wads xd to showcase the power this can have with new palettes. imagine every recolor in that neon04 album i gave but now they are all possible. this may be more powerful than we can ever imagine...


also btw that's blue. This is what lavender actually looks like:

change hue 244 to 270 (violet). lavender is just light violet. We don't need 16 lavenders. Put in violet from dark violet to lavender instead for that range. Middle color should be around #7F00FF.



edit: almost off topic
found this cool website randomly its very esay to understand
midimagic.sgc-hosting.com/pricol.htm
has all the basics that matter. good website for noobs like ivan and a majority of the world that call cyan, azure, sky blue, cerulean, spring green, indigo: "BLUE". dumb noobs


edit2: id software called this indigo:

now you know why the doom palette is so messed up

b7 notes

1 - The jump is impossible while the lift is down, didn't feel like altering geometry too much.
3 - You now take damage when you fall off, some say it's too much, I say DBAB
4 - Fix jump pad and decrease powerup amount
5 - Nothing wrong here, everything seemed fine still
9 - Needs sector coloring to differentiate the different areas of the map, Decay commented about the rock standing out in the mid, need to fix the texture scaling so that the 3D floors don't bug out
12 - Still some lag, can be fixed with the removal of additional buildings out of sight
13 - Played much better, nothing wrong so it's good to be finished in the year 2018
15 - Nothing much, Decay commented about getting stuck but it's not that big of a deal, #decayonlyproblems #obesitysucks
16 - Played good, ready for detail
21 - Nobody had anything to say, I guess it's good?
22 - Good map by Jason, played well

Great job we made progress this month, yea prutal doom!

ok rangle i found out why the floor on neon16 turns to entirely 1 shade. there is a really large gap between pure magenta and the next shade so I propose an update to the palette:

Basically i brought back the missing magenta transition and favored the brights again (NEON) because everybody is going to go crazy over violet now hopefully. We have 7 magentas now though so we can have both bright and dark yay. + I did some other minor fixes to the newest colors to make the hues purer

btw scrubs this is pretty much the new palette: All tertiary colors + 4 indigos. (only 4 chartreuse careful)

link: www.sendspace.com/file/qtsdwf


+ i have new extremely progressive map ideas idk if they will suck lets see



edit: recolors done too many paragrahps in here lets get them below